When Ya Get Drafted

Please understand that American men and women must die to defend the Caspian oil pipeline, and to protect our country from the next U.S. sponsored Iraqi dictator. $12 billion a month, 4000+ American body bags, and tens of thousands of war cripples is a drop in the bucket when compared to the threat of dried-up filling stations and a possible nuclear salvo originating from the former Babylonian empire.

Your children must be sacrificed for the continuing Iraqi meat-grinding effort. How would you feel if all those soldiers died in vain? George W. Bush would not call for the wholesale slaughter of your lower-class born babies unless the cause was noble and just. Hell, we all die in the end.

Are you believing the morning papers?
War is coming back in style
There are generals here, advisers there
and [Islamicists] nibbling everywhere
The chessboard’s filling up with [Jihadists]
We make profits when we blow off their heads

Economy is looking bad
Let’s start another war when ya get drafted
Fan the fires of racist hatred
We want total war when ya get drafted

Drooling fingers
Panic buttons
Playing with missiles like they’re toys
There’s easy money, easy jobs
Especially when you build the bombs
That blow big cities off the map
Just guess who profits when we build ’em back up
Yeah, what Big Business wants Big Business gets

It wants a war when ya get drafted
Trilateral Commission goonies laugh
and scheme for more when ya get drafted
Call the Army!
Call the Navy!
Stocked with kids from slums when ya get drafted
If you can’t afford a slick attorney
We might make you a spy

Forget your demonstrations
Kids today sit on their ass when ya get drafted
Just a six-pack
And you’re happy
We’re prepared
For when ya get drafted ~ The Dead Kennedys (When Ya Get Drafted)

War does not determine who is right – only who is left ~Bertrand Russell

17 Responses to “When Ya Get Drafted”

  1. April 16, 2008 at 12:09 am

    Yep JP…it’s about that.

    Happy Tax Day, my big noggin’d friend.


    Johnnypeeper’s response:

    Oh yeah, I forgot WMDs, torture and rape rooms, the cry for democracy, and gassed Kurds (whose death was facilitated by the U.S. government). You must forgive me LK, I did not have my morning shot of Fox News propaganda before I wrote this post.

  2. April 16, 2008 at 10:06 am

    as the mother of 2 boys, one being less than 4 yrs from his 18th b-day, the draft scares the bejeezus outta me.

  3. 3 Taylor
    April 16, 2008 at 1:57 pm

    We have millions of troops, we will not have a draft in this country anytime soon.

    Johnnypeeper’s response:

    Recruitment levels for the Army are at their lowest levels since the draft was lifted in 1973. Your frame of reference is limited due to your youth. If you look at the government’s plans for the Middle East and the number of enlisted personnel that it would require to implement them, you would come to a different conclusion. Of course, it all depends on how you define the word “soon.”

    In 2003, several Democratic congressmen (Charles Rangel of New York, James McDermott of Washington, John Conyers of Michigan, John Lewis of Georgia, Pete Stark of California, Neil Abercrombie of Hawaii) introduced legislation that would draft both men and women into either military or civilian government service, should there be a draft in the future.

    A back-door draft exists currently. “Stop-loss” orders have extended the Active Duty periods of some military personnel. The Pentagon stated that as of As of January 31, 2006 it has been reported that more than 50,000 soldiers and reservists had been affected.

    In November 2006, Representative Charles Rangel again called for the draft to be reinstated.

    On December 19, 2006, President Bush announced that he was considering sending more troops to Iraq. The next day, the Selective Service System’s director for operations and chief information officer, Scott Campbell, announced plans for a “readiness exercise” to test the system’s operations in 2009, for the first time since 1998.

    On December 21, 2006, Veterans Affairs Secretary Jim Nicholson, when asked by a reporter whether the draft should be reinstated to make the military more equal, said, “I think that our society would benefit from that, yes sir.”

    On August 10, 2007, with National Public Radio on “All Things Considered,” Lieutenant General Douglas Lute, National Security Adviser to the President and Congress for all matters pertaining to the United States Military efforts in Iraq and Afghanistan, expressed support for a draft to alleviate the stress on the Army’s all-volunteer force. He cited the fact that repeated deployments place much strain upon one soldier’s family and himself which, in turn, can affect retention

  4. 4 Manco
    April 16, 2008 at 2:31 pm

    That means you, Taylor. Are you ready to suit up and go kill those evil Muslims? Something tells me you’ll find a way out of it. Hey, you support the troops enough as it is with your neverending stream of patriotic rhetoric. They don’t actually need you to go fight the goddamn war you support.

    I say every chickenhawk sumbitch in this country should be willing to go over there and fight. You want to support it….well, Gomer Pyle, here’s a gun: we’ll put your ass to work.

  5. 5 Taylor
    April 16, 2008 at 5:46 pm

    Peepers, I like how you reference a statement made on a show called “ALL things CONSIDERED”. . .

    And Rengel just wants to enact a draft as a means to END the war.

    Johnnypeeper’s response:

    Are calling the National Security Adviser and Lt. General a liar?

  6. 6 Manco
    April 16, 2008 at 6:42 pm

    Taylor: You’ll have to explain how enacting a draft will end a war? I suppose you mean that by drafting middle class and upper class citizens, it’ll bring the war to a stop. Understand this: the higher classes never fight, they only start the wars. The working class will always have to die for the vain hopes, glories and delusions of the powerful.

  7. April 16, 2008 at 7:16 pm

    You mentioned good point here about another Iraqi dictator. Now i am studying their program nowadays, Iraq is obviously departed, even if what we see is one iraq. Same about lebanon. And they’re trying to make same problem in Iran.

    On the other hand, they’re working hard on Arab-Perisian syndrome. (Like story of persian-arabian gulf)

    They make debates and try to put arabs and iranians face to face of together. Finally many people die and nobody earn anything, not american civilians, nor mid eastern people. A certain group will swallow whole the weath of the region!

  8. 8 Taylor
    April 16, 2008 at 8:09 pm

    Peepers, I am saying that on a show title “ALL things CONSIDERED” the topics probably cover “all things” that may be “considered”..


    Rangel thinks that bringing a draft up will outrage people because instead of using people who volunteer to go to war, we would be using people who did NOT volunteer.

    He feels (in my opinion) that it will bring Iraq to the dinner tables and more people will call for an end to the conflict.

    Johnnypeeper’s response:

    Sometimes I don’t know why I even bother kid, but here goes anyway. The show is a program that discusses a variety of wide-ranging topics, hence the name “All Things Considered”. As a lobotomized Bush bot, I know you are forbidden to venture outside of your Fox News programming schedule, but it might do you a little good every once in a while to get a fresh perspective.

    On August 17, 2007 the topic was “‘War Czar’ Concerned over Stress of War on Troops.” Yet another failed attempt at cherry picking. I recommend you sign up for debate or logic classes at your community college. Another child left behind indeed.

    Q. But does it (the draft) make sense militarily?

    A. I think it makes sense to certainly consider it, and I can tell you, this has always been an option on the table…

  9. 9 Taylor
    April 16, 2008 at 11:59 pm

    Peepers, do you even realize that sometimes I just take your words, as I did above, and twist them just to lure you into debate?

    I am not an idiot, I know its always been on the table, that’s why we have the Selective Services. Also, I do not watch much “cable news”. I get my news from online newspapers from different countries or I watch world news on BBC. I hate that cable news only focuses on USA news instead of covering several countries.

    Do I think there will be a draft anytime soon? No.

    Am I a “Bush bot” ? Hell no, he has spent our country into a hole. He’s certainly no conservative.

    Johnnypeeper’s response:

    You need a hobby kid.

  10. 10 Taylor
    April 17, 2008 at 9:57 am

    I have several hobbies old man.

  11. 11 Manco
    April 17, 2008 at 11:31 am

    You tell him, Taylor. Man, if only I could reach your level of intelligence. Now that would really be something. I could school any second grader in the country in a debate if I could just reach your level of wit and wisdom. Oh, life is cruel.

    Taylor: I find it amusing that Johnny schools your sorry ass yet again, and you come back with a lie that you twist the words to start debate. If that’s truly the case, might I advise you to give it a rest because you’re getting roasted in all of the debates you start.

    And if you were truly paying attention to alternative and foreign sources of news, I would think your arguments would be more well-rounded instead of the flat, flacid, meaningless jumble of words they actually are.

  12. 12 Taylor
    April 17, 2008 at 4:32 pm

    It wasn’t a lie, I know what the lame show is. I listen to it occasonially its on 90.1 FM on the Radio.

    And Mancompany do you even know what my “meaningless words” actually are?

    Or do you just discount me because I do not subscribe to your brand of conspiracy theory?

    And I suppose you did not notice I was making fun of him because he called me a “kid” so I called him “an old man”.

    ****And its rather lame of you to be Peepers’ cheerleader, don’t you think?

  13. 13 Manco
    April 17, 2008 at 6:41 pm

    Your meaningless words are meaningless words.

    I discount you because you have offered nothing of substance to this forum.

    I noticed it and your childish comeback validated his remark.

    I’m not a cheerleader, I just don’t like you. Whenever you comment here, it’s sure to be an empty comment and I like pointing that out. You’re a waste of flesh, Taylor. How does that feel?

  14. 14 Taylor
    April 19, 2008 at 2:01 pm

    Feels good Mancompany, thanks a lot man.

  15. April 12, 2012 at 3:37 pm

    Terror Just tell me what on earth you guys think you are capable of when you don’t gather what I have gathered from the collosionn *_”

  16. April 12, 2012 at 3:38 pm

    terrrorr are you in the fafy dodod jowej kiiellenk ell if thom ad unse. *_”

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