Why is Big Pharma and the EPA Poisoning Our Water Supply?


Americans are being treated as human guinea pigs. We are being assaulted by dangerous combinations of pharmaceutical company drug residue that passes from human waste into our taps and bottled water. But why? In the short run, Big Pharma’s goal is to slowly sicken us for profit. We will be dependent on their cures and vaccines for the illnesses they have created. The long-run agenda is systematic global population reduction.

Big Pharma, the EPA, and municipal water authorities have attempted to suppress information regarding the pollution of our drinking water. This AP article provides the disturbing details.

A vast array of pharmaceuticals — including antibiotics, anti-convulsants, mood stabilizers and sex hormones — have been found in the drinking water supplies of at least 41 million Americans.

Water providers rarely disclose results of pharmaceutical screenings, unless pressed, the AP found. For example, the head of a group representing major California suppliers said the public “doesn’t know how to interpret the information” and might be unduly alarmed.

Why even bother informing the affected public? We are too stupid to handle the truth anyway. Thank you Big Water spokesman for wanting to protect me from information that might “alarm” me. I am easily agitated and tend to get violent when corporations and the government try to poison me.

But most treatments do not remove all drug residue. Recent studies — which have gone virtually unnoticed by the general public — have found alarming effects on human cells and wildlife.

The studies have gone “virtually unnoticed” due to the government’s attempt to keep the citizens shielded from the truth.

“We recognize it is a growing concern and we’re taking it very seriously,” said Benjamin H. Grumbles, assistant administrator for water at the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency.

No, you are not taking the threat seriously Benjamin. You only said that because your criminal negligence has been exposed. I suspect you will be back in the private sector soon. I hear Pfizer needs a janitor. Since you are so good at talking shit, maybe you could mop it up.


Here are some of the key test results obtained by the AP:

_In Philadelphia, sixty-three pharmaceuticals or byproducts were found in the city’s watersheds.

_A sex hormone was detected in San Francisco’s drinking water.

_The drinking water for Washington, D.C., and surrounding areas tested positive for six pharmaceuticals.

The situation is undoubtedly worse than suggested by the positive test results in the major population centers. The federal government doesn’t require any testing and hasn’t set safety limits for drugs in water.

Maybe the lack of testing for drugs in our water has something to do with the stooges from Big Pharma who have a powerful lobbying influence and write the legislation and EPA regulations for our corrupt legislators. Just a wild guess of course.

City water officials declined repeated requests for an interview. In one statement, they insisted that “New York City’s drinking water continues to meet all federal and state regulations regarding drinking water quality in the watershed and the distribution system” — regulations that do not address trace pharmaceuticals.

In several cases, officials at municipal or regional water providers told the AP that pharmaceuticals had not been detected, but the AP obtained the results of tests conducted by independent researchers that showed otherwise.

The officials only want to protect use from being “unduly alarmed.” We cannot handle the truth. We might march on Washington and clamor for safe drinking water. What is the harm in a little white lie when the social order will be maintained?

Arlington, Texas, acknowledged that traces of a pharmaceutical were detected in its drinking water but cited post-9/11 security concerns in refusing to identify the drug. Officials in Emporia, Kan., refused to answer AP’s questions, also citing post-9/11 issues.

I guess it is better that big Pharma and the complicit government poison us than the evil “terrorists.” If the crazy Muslim fundamentalists knew what drugs were in our drinking water, they would assuredly destroy our way of life. They hate us because of our freedoms.

Even users of bottled water and home filtration systems don’t necessarily avoid exposure. Bottlers, some of which simply repackage tap water, do not typically treat or test for pharmaceuticals, according to the industry’s main trade group. The same goes for the makers of home filtration systems.

In other words, get used to taking your daily cocktail of other’s peoples drugs. There is nothing you can do about it anyway, so why worry?

Pharmaceuticals also permeate aquifers deep underground, source of 40 percent of the nation’s water supply. Federal scientists who drew water in 24 states from aquifers near contaminant sources such as landfills and animal feed lots found minuscule levels of hormones, antibiotics and other drugs.

Another issue: There’s evidence that adding chlorine, a common process in conventional drinking water treatment plants, makes some pharmaceuticals more toxic.

Ask the pharmaceutical industry whether the contamination of water supplies is a problem, and officials will tell you no. “Based on what we now know, I would say we find there’s little or no risk from pharmaceuticals in the environment to human health,” said microbiologist Thomas White, a consultant for the Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturers of America.

“Based on what we now know” – which is virtually nonexistent since the data is purposefully suppressed. I am sure that a consultant for Big Pharma would provide a thoroughly objective analysis of the dangers posed by drugs in our water supply. It is not like his paycheck depends on it or anything.

But at a conference last summer, Mary Buzby — director of environmental technology for drug maker Merck & Co. Inc. (soon to be unemployed) — said: “There’s no doubt about it, pharmaceuticals are being detected in the environment and there is genuine concern that these compounds, in the small concentrations that they’re at, could be causing impacts to human health or to aquatic organisms.”

Recent laboratory research has found that small amounts of medication have affected human embryonic kidney cells, human blood cells and human breast cancer cells. The cancer cells proliferated too quickly; the kidney cells grew too slowly; and the blood cells showed biological activity associated with inflammation.

Also, pharmaceuticals in waterways are damaging wildlife across the nation and around the globe, research shows. Notably, male fish are being feminized, creating egg yolk proteins, a process usually restricted to females. Pharmaceuticals also are affecting sentinel species at the foundation of the pyramid of life — such as earth worms in the wild and zooplankton in the laboratory, studies show.

Some scientists stress that the research is extremely limited, and there are too many unknowns. They say, though, that the documented health problems in wildlife are disconcerting.

“It brings a question to people’s minds that if the fish were affected … might there be a potential problem for humans?” EPA research biologist Vickie Wilson told the AP. “It could be that the fish are just exquisitely sensitive because of their physiology or something. We haven’t gotten far enough along.”

Sounds like it requires further study Vickie. In the meantime, we should freely imbibe our chemical cocktails and roll the dice. I mean it is just our health right? Besides, who wants to live forever? Screw the animals and environmental impact. The EPA rocks!

There’s growing concern in the scientific community, meanwhile, that certain drugs — or combinations of drugs — may harm humans over decades because water, unlike most specific foods, is consumed in sizable amounts every day.

Our bodies may shrug off a relatively big one-time dose, yet suffer from a smaller amount delivered continuously over a half century, perhaps subtly stirring allergies or nerve damage. However, some experts say medications may pose a unique danger because, unlike most pollutants, they were crafted to act on the human body.

“We know we are being exposed to other people’s drugs through our drinking water, and that can’t be good,” says Dr. David Carpenter, who directs the Institute for Health and the Environment of the State University of New York at Albany.

Maybe I should not be so worried about this article. I know my elected officials and their political agency appointees recognize the importance of protecting every American’s health and safety. I am sure that measures to keep our water safe are being implemented as I type this.


General Jack D. Ripper: You know when fluoridation first began?
Group Capt. Lionel Mandrake: I… no, no. I don’t, Jack.
General Jack D. Ripper: Nineteen hundred and forty-six. Nineteen forty-six, Mandrake. How does that coincide with your post-war Commie conspiracy, huh? It’s incredibly obvious, isn’t it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That’s the way your hard-core Commie works.

26 Responses to “Why is Big Pharma and the EPA Poisoning Our Water Supply?”

  1. March 10, 2008 at 1:45 pm

    The effects are always worst than what’s released to the public. The effects of a tainted water supply of various pharms are more than likely more than we know. However, I’m sure studies have been conducted; also for which are most likely classified. The sad part is that we can’t just clean it up. I’ve noticed for years that girls mature faster than we did when I was a girl–I thought it was in the baby formula. We have increased incidents of hormonal disorders; and 1 out 5 of my female friends have died from, have had or are being treated for breast cancer. I don’t ever remember hearing about so many cases as a girl. At least two major news personalities were treated for breast cancer last year. The doctors report the increase it on the fact that more woman are having regular checkups; and therefore more are being diagnosed; but if that were the case, why is it that few in my mother’s generation died from un/late-diagnosed breast cancer? The sh..t has hit the fan this time. I hope it’s resolved for the benefit of innocent people and not for the benefit of big money. Sounds like a real cover up. And honestly, we never really get the real facts when its a real cover up. Also, it’s funny that there are so many resistant bacterias today. The doctors tell us it’s because we don’t always take all of our antibiotics. I didn’t take all of my pennicillin as a child; and it still worked the next time, and the next time, and the next time that I caught strep or any other bacteria. It cured me then, even if I took two or three pill. Now, all of a sudden these strains are resistent because I didn’t take the entire bottle. Bull. These conditions don’t happen because people don’t take all their meds; its because we have been gradually taken the antibiotics a little each day, through our foods, the water and other sneak sources. The combination of the pharm residue can only make us sick or keep us super well. From what I’ve seen, it’s making us sick.

    Thanks for sharing Peeps!

    Johnnypeeper’s response:

    Thank you for sharing Cordie. Unfortunately, we are being systematically sickened and murdered by an evil collusion of governmental entities, corporations, and a complicit media that selectively reports information. The reason the shit never really hits the fan is because so many are unaware, or willfully blind, to what is occurring in our world. For many it is a denial mechanism. Information and truth that is too unfathomable to believe acts as a perpetual blinder for those who want to believe in the good of humanity. If we want womankind to flourish, we must expose these villains and put admirable men and women into public office.

  2. 2 c
    March 10, 2008 at 2:01 pm

    One of my favorite books, Nature’s End, describes a future world ruled by pharmaceutical companies. People of that world pop supervitamins to keep their bodies young and supple, “moodies” and a drug called satisfaction which was sprinkled over product made to look like food so that folks would belive they were eating actual food.

    Poor people (of course) aged and got diseaes, had to live through anger or sadness and actually ate the garbage used to make “food” without satisfaction.

    i am sure this is just the tip of the iceberg my friend.

    Johnnypeeper’s response:

    The powerless are always the ones who suffer the brunt of this type of abuse (i.e., the old, sick, young, and minorities). The syphilis “experiment” conducted on African-Americans for 40 years is a horrific example. The recent news of clinics in Nevada infecting Medicare patients with hepatitis is another. The evils of this sort do not only occur in the U.S.

    Our government conducted massive radiation experiments on Sephardic Jews in the 1950’s. Every Sephardi child was to be given 35,000 times the maximum dose of x-rays through his head. Thousands of children died, or suffered horrendous effects from radiation poisoning. You can read about it here.

    There are many other abuses of this sort. Now they have found a way to sicken all of us – through a basic necessity – our water supply.

  3. 3 c
    March 10, 2008 at 4:44 pm

    i knew about the Tuskeegee Experiment but not about the x-rays on Sephardic Jews.


    Oh my God-

  4. March 10, 2008 at 9:17 pm

    Have you considered the possibility that more of the women getting the breast cancers may have had abortions? I think there are 8 studies citing a high correlation between abortion and breast cancer. But there are political reasons for media and the NCI to suppress these findings.

    I don’t think pharmaceutical companies ever had any intention of sickening us through the water supply. The contamination may be a fact, but it’s an unintended consequence of the fact that we are all taking some kind of drugs to live longer.

    Johnnypeeper’s response:

    According to all of the major cancer organizations, there is no direct correlation between breast cancer and abortions. The studies that show the opposite were conducted by pro-life activists (Dr. Joel Brind, Dr. Angela Lanfranchi and Dr. Karen Malec). They are in the overwhelming minority of scientific opinion on the issue. Also, their bias brings into question the objectivity of their statistical findings.

  5. March 10, 2008 at 9:22 pm

    you have to remember, that pharm employees/owners/board members/ceo’s, etc. ALSO use the city water. I doubt they want to make themselves ill.

    As for the girls maturing earlier –my mom is in her high 80’s –I remember her marveling at how early my generation was maturing–all the buxom 5th and 6th graders –and I remember one 4th grader who was fully matronly. So I’m not so sure we really are maturing early –though some claim to have researched it and thought that leaving lights on all night was causing kids to mature sooner.

    I think they thought some ethnic groups had early maturing girls –usually overweight overall. Cordie, what would you call early?

    Johnnypeeper’s response:

    I am sure that most of the big Pharma, water municipality, and even EPA government employees had no idea about the poisoning of our water. The reason is because the data has been suppressed. The article indicates that the water authorities are extremely reluctant to acknowledge the presence of pharmaceuticals in our water. In one case they lied about the findings. That is disturbing to me, and it should be for you as well. As far as the individuals who had knowledge, you have no idea whether they drink city water.

    Thank you for your anecdotal evidence about early puberty. I would rather refer to the scientific studies before I draw any conclusions.

  6. March 10, 2008 at 10:39 pm

    I am surprised that this is happening in America. In developing countries we have industrial pollutants and in developed countries they have medicines! Human beings are going to mutate…

  7. 7 msmilie
    March 10, 2008 at 11:58 pm

    Barb: I’ve been reading your comments on Johnny’s blog here for some time and I’ve avoided replying because it’s ultimately going to change nothing. However, your denial and stupidity where it concerns the inner workings of the people in “leadership” positions is appalling to me. Absolutely appalling. Stuff like this is uncovered all the time.

    An independent laboratory found a compound linked to birth defects in more than half of the samples of canned fruit, vegetables, soda, and baby formula from supermarket shelves, according to an Environmental Working Group (EWG) report.

    On the very day that the President unveiled a program to punish corporate malfeasance, the Administration proposed legislation that would grant new secrecy and immunity protections for corporate wrongdoing. The Administration’s proposed Protection of Voluntarily Submitted Critical Infrastructure Information Act (and similar language in Section 724 of the Republican leadership’s substitute for HR 5005, The Homeland Security Act) would allow corporations to conceal damaging information from the public and courts and avoid accountability for their actions.

    That doesn’t bother you, Barb? Of course not, you’re a conservative. Conservatives create their own reality.

    Who conducted the studies connecting abortion to breast cancer? I would love to see their credentials.

    If your whole purpose and financial future revolves around people being sick, or thinking they’re sick, what happens if the illness is cured or there is really no illness?

    The pharmaceutical and health-products industry has spent more on lobbying Washington –- $1.1 billion -– since 1998 than any other industry, according to the Center for Responsive Politics. Why are they so concerned about legislation coming out of Washington? I’ll tell you why. To protect their evil asses when stories like this break.
    Many members of Congress – look it up – own millions of dollars of stock in pharmaceutical companies and want to protect their investments even when not in the best interest of the country.

    Come on, Barb. I thought conservatives – true conservatives – feared government, and its impact on people’s lives? I thought the intrusion of corporations into government was a characteristic of fascism?
    What was it Mussolini said: “The first stage of fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of State and corporate power”

    Dr. Lawrence Britt has examined the fascist regimes of Hitler (Germany), Mussolini (Italy), Franco (Spain), Suharto (Indonesia) and several Latin American regimes. Britt found 14 defining characteristics common to each:

    1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism – Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottoes, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.
    2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights – Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of “need.” The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.
    3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause – The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial , ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.
    4. Supremacy of the Military – Even when there are widespread domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.
    5. Rampant Sexism – The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Divorce, abortion and homosexuality are suppressed and the state is represented as the ultimate guardian of the family institution.
    6. Controlled Mass Media – Sometimes the media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common.
    7. Obsession with National Security – Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.
    8. Religion and Government are Intertwined – Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government’s policies or actions.
    9. Corporate Power is Protected – The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.
    10. Labor Power is Suppressed – Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed.
    11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts – Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts and letters is openly attacked.
    12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment – Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forgo civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations.
    13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption – Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.
    14. Fraudulent Elections – Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.

    Now, Barb. Tell me that doesn’t sound a hell of a lot like our own country at this moment. Keep thinking it’s all about religion and conservative and liberal. Keep thinking that while these pigs sons of bitches sell the ground from under your feet.

    Have a nice day.

  8. March 11, 2008 at 9:19 am

    Dude, sometimes your articles scare me. And they scare me because this shit is true. I read an article a while back on one of these lame-ass irreputable conspiracy pages and at first it sounded paranoid. But the overall jist was kind of simple and frightening. That is…in the event of some national catastrophe (let’s say a massive terrorist strike much larger than 911), if out water supply is “poisoned”, we’d have to resort to purchasing it. And I’m not talking 20 oz. bottles…i’m talking as in how the price of gasoline has gone up. Are we THAT far away from having our basic necessities controlled in such a way, too?

  9. March 11, 2008 at 10:55 am

    My position is not to say all corporate leaders and companies are saintly, blameless, etc.

    But many times, there are unintended consequences to various industiral products/processes –and they need to be addressed and remedied. But lawsuits that kill the company and take away all the jobs are counter-productive. People need companies to work for. That need, however, doesn’t excuse deliberate criminal acts in business at all.

    You’ve been talking about these medicines that we take finding their way into the water systems through the waste products of the patients. Who anticipated that? We patients didn’t. I have no reason to think the pharm companies anticipated this and I don’t think they should be penalized. Are you saying we should all try to live without our medicines? Pharm companies should, however, use their profits to find a solution –if possible. But what is the solution?? Either we don’t take medicines and die young –or we risk others to minute quanities of our drugs that cannot be removed from the water supply.

    Johnnypeeper’s response:

    When a corporation harms, sickens, or kills users of their product (or the general public), they are responsible for their actions. A corporation must pay for the harm they have caused, this is the basis of tort law. If the corporation has not insured against the risk (whether negligence or intentional wrongs), then bankruptcy, a reduction in force, or other market forces will dictate their future. The unintended consequences you mentioned have not been able to be addressed because the information was kept from the public.

    Big Pharma should suffer if they were engaged in a conspiracy to keep this information from the public. If it can be demonstrated that they knew, or should have known, that their product would cause future harm by being introduced to the water supply, they should be held liable. You present a false dilemma argument as to whether we should not take medicines or accept the risk to our water supply. The reason I wrote about this topic is because the information was kept from the people intentionally. Had preventive measures been taken sooner, the problem could have been mitigated through new filtration methods.

  10. March 11, 2008 at 11:44 am

    @Barb and Peeps. Barb, I feel your compassion, but I agree with Peeps. These companies are responsible for paying into insurance plans to lessen their losses. The companies should be held to the same degree of responsibility that we “normal” citizens are held to. I can’t rent out property knowing I have a mold or lead issue. If my tenant becomes ill, I would be liable and would more than likely end up losing the house and even more money. These laws are there to protect people, especially people who can’t protect themselves. Many slumlords would rent out subhousing to the poor and credit-poor, if these laws were not in affect. In tort law, companies are held liable for all negligence; but even more so for GROSS negligence. If the companies knew that the meds were in the water system, they are more than likely guilty of GROSS negligence, because they took no steps to correct the the problem and allowed the problem to continue for perhaps many years, hoping we would not find out. I’m sure many were paid or given promotions to keep this under cover.

    Just because I am a good person does not mean that I should not be held liable for harming another person. If I have a car accident which causes injuries to others after my insurance lapses, then I might loose every thing I own. It does not matter that I’m a good person and I didn’t have the money to pay the preminum–Once I take the risk, I have to accept the consequences. Same should apply to the big companies.

  11. March 11, 2008 at 1:56 pm

    @Barb. Barb, as for my statements on Cancer and the maturing of girls; these were my observations, and not based on any fact–for all I knew the increased incidents of breast cancer and my perceived early maturity of girls could have, as you commically say, been caused by light fixtures. But mind you, where I work, we have to call in special demolition contractors to remove and dispose of light fixtures due to its contents being hazardous material (mainly mercury). These substances are so hazardous that they have to be handled by specially trained individuals and placed in landfills specializing in such hazardous waste. I agree with Peeps that more scientific study has to be done about this matter, so I will not discuss that matter any further until such research is conducted; However, I hope that you will at least open your eyes to see that neglect in these matters are not only making people sick, but also destroying God’s creation. Whether or not there is negligence in the matter should be mute to you; for as the Christian for which you claim to be, we are put on Earth with a responsibility to preserve and multiply humanity and God’s creation. When God gave us dominion over plants and animals, he gave us these gifts with a distinct responsibility. Gen 1: 26-28 – God spoke: “Let us make human beings in our image, make them reflecting our nature so they can be responsible for the fish in the sea, the birds in the air, the cattle, and, yes, earth itself, and every animal that moves on the face of Earth.” God created human beings; he created them godlike, reflecting God’s nature. He created them male and female. God blessed them: “Prosper! Reproduce! Fill Earth! Take charge! Be responsible for fish in the sea and birds in the air, for every living thing that moves on the face of Earth.”

    The love of power and money has caused many to neglect these responsibilities, and even worst to look the other way for what they have been brainwashed to believe to be most beneficial to the people. Any time we can justify a wrongness such as the poisoning of waters on the condition of it providing jobs , there is a real problem in our value system, especially if we are Christians. A job is a means for money; but the Lord provides for everything, even when the job is gone. I suspect that anything good that is obtained by the willful hurting or destruction of humanity is not held favorable in the eyes of God.

    Please look into your heart and realize that any attachment to anything of this world that would cause you to turn-aside knowing that it negatively effects the fruitbearingness of God’s creation, is not godlike. So please take a hard look at your own beliefs and value systems before being so judgemental, especially when you do it in the name of God or Christ.

  12. March 11, 2008 at 2:38 pm

    I wasn’t the one who said it was light that was causing faster maturation of the girls –it was some study some years back. Because we thought it might be true, we didn’t use a lot of night light in our house.

    You didn’t answer my question–what do you mean when you say girls are maturing earlier? What ages are you seeing girls entering puberty? I teach some 3rd and 4th graders –ages 8-10 approx –and none of them are crossing over. it will come in 5th grade for a few –and in 6th grade for more of them–and a few will be 15 before they have a period.

    This was about the same in my day. My mother thought the girls were blooming to soon and sooner than in HER day –but I’m betting it’s the same –apart from the differences that nutrition might make in a given culture –and the push by culture and peers (and sometimes by mothers) to make girls look like jr. celebrities in the 6th grade.

    What is the solution to people’s medicines going through their bodies and into the water supplies?? Won’t we want to keep taking our medicines –that aren’t supposed to be taken by others? We’ll have to send all our waste to outer space –and bypass the sewers? to keep the meds from entering the water supply?

    I’m not justifying any pollution –just saying that suing the company out of existance is just creating another problem. if that company makes something we want and need.

  13. March 11, 2008 at 3:51 pm

    In response to Barbs last question, I see girls budding breast in around the 4th -5th grades. I suspose the average age for a 4th grader is about 9 year’s old. I suspose this observation could be based on the the ethincity of the girls, as Barb said in her earlier submission, but being that I’m of the same race of those I observe, I don’t think that is the case. But, I’m only answering Barbs question, because, as Peeps said, I’m not the expert and further research would have to be conducted. The thing about the light is kind of funny; but it could render some truth; as light produces growth in nature. Thanks so much for sharing your views . . . the provacative always enhances one’s thougth processes. And remember . . .Fruit don’t fall too far from the tree.

    The earth is the very quintessence of the human condition.
    Hannah Arendt

    Peace, Light and Love to you and yours . . . .

    Johnnypeeper’s response:

    “I see girls budding breast in around the 4th -5th grades.”

    If I had of typed that I would have a warrant served on me and my laptop impounded. Why is there such a double standard when it comes to women saying stuff like that? I ain’t saying you need to be investigated or arrested for no child porn, so don’t misunderstand. If these hairy armed women liberationists want equality they got to take the good with the bad. A lot of them bull-dyke heifers got lustful designs on them young girls. They need to take that shit back to the isle of Lesbos. Them lil’ darlings if for the men folk when they get growed up.

  14. March 11, 2008 at 11:17 pm

    Would the girls who are budding at that age, Cordieb, be overweight? And it’s a little hard to tell if their chests are just chunky or really maturing– boys, too, who are overweight get “breasts.” Or are the girls also really getting periods at age 9 that you know of?

    OOH, Johnny, close your Peepers. We’re being so explicit here! lol!

  15. 15 millyonair
    March 13, 2008 at 10:40 am

    Ain’t nobody need to worry ’bout any of this. Y’all jest mix some whiskey in y’all water and all them nasty ol’ medicines get neutralized. Ain’tchall never heard y’all doctor tell ya not to drink when you takes medicine? That’s why, folks.

    Fer kids, I’d do a 1:1 whiskey/water ratio otherways they’d be real bad at school. But fer me personally, I likes a little more whiskey mixed in fer flavor.

  16. 16 Manco
    March 13, 2008 at 12:30 pm

    who is this country bitch supposed to be?
    hey, dope slut: I think you got off at the wrong stop. why don’t you go back to your little grass hut and cook me up a mess of something good to eat. dumb bitch.

  17. 17 Manco
    March 13, 2008 at 12:33 pm

    Barb: you’ve never been explicit in your life. You strike me as the coldest of cold fish.
    Would you like Peepers to get explicit with you. Yeah, he could wear your underwear and tie your husband up and make him watch as his darling little christian wife goes apeshit with a meth addict.
    Keep flying those friendly skies, Barb.

  18. March 15, 2008 at 9:21 am

    As a resident of Detroit who drinks city water, this drugs in my water thing has me very worried. What kind of unknown negative effects is it having on my body?

    *takes another bite of Wendy’s baconator*

    Johnnypeeper’s response:

    Thanks to the suppressed water-analysis studies, we do not know the full extent of the harm yet. Many of the municipal water authorities stressed that that they were not legally required to test for pharmaceuticals in the water. Hmm, I wonder why. Maybe it has something to do with the millions of lobbying dollars spent to affect EPA laws. You do know that Big Pharma lobbyists write substantial portions of many of the environmental bills and agency regulations, right? I am sure Fox News will do a probing investigative report on the story.

  19. 19 norris
    March 15, 2008 at 9:23 am

    They’ve just sampled all of the neighborhood snowmen and found that the snowmen contain contaminents, too. Seems the government and pharmaceutical insiders don’t overlook anything. With all of these poisons being pumped into me, my chances of reaching one of the highest average life expectancies on the planet and in human history seem slim. About the only safe thing to do anymore is browse the internet and inject the population with more dormitory-bred conspiracy theories.

    Johnnypeeper’s response:

    Yeah, I had to plumb the deepest depths of the Internet to find the cited Associated Press article. It was hiding in between infowars.com and DHS.gov. I guess I better crawl back into my bomb cellar and write some more fiction to instill irrational fear in the public.

  20. 20 norris
    March 15, 2008 at 12:46 pm

    What was reported is scarcely alarming: parts per billion and parts per trillion. My comment was directed less at you personally than it was at the popular stance on the web–that we’re being intentionally poisoned by the pharmaceuticals.

    Given the tens of billions of pills that are annually popped in this country, the findings could be just as well be used to demonstrate the comparative cleanliness of our drinking water, a lot of which–it must be imagined–is reused.

    Rather than worry about the possible long-term effects of pill dust, Americans would be wiser to worry about their globe-topping consumption of alcohol and saturated fat
    –poisons they themselves are rolling into their homes by the barrel.

    Johnnypeeper’s response:

    I do not think the “popular stance” on the web is that we are being poisoned. Of course it depends on who you categorize as popular sources. I would argue that the MSM websites (i.e. Drudge Report, CNN.com, New York Times online, etc.) are the ones that shape public opinion on these matters. From what I have read, they downplayed the risk considerably.

    You are correct that the amount of exposure is negligible. My concern is the government’s response to inquiries. They range from “we do not have to test drug levels in the water” to “we cannot tell you because of 9-11 and security concerns.” One water authority even lied about the test findings. Given the increasing number of prescriptions and people who are given these drugs, the amount of drugs in our water is steadily increasing. The baby-boomers are taking dozens of medications and their numbers are ballooning.

    I expect my government to be open and honest about risks to the water supply. They have consciously evaded answering questions regarding the risk of pharmaceuticals in the water supply. That disturbs me.

    As far as the health risks associated with alcohol and fats, I agree entirely. The distinction is that individuals can choose to avoid these products. It is very difficult and inconvenient to not use the water being pumped into your home.

  21. March 16, 2008 at 1:08 am

    The EPA also rocks when they tell farmers to use sewage sludge as fertilizer. A lot of people flush their leftover antibiotics down the toilet.

    I just read this article last week:

  22. 22 antennawilde
    March 20, 2008 at 1:10 pm


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Johnny Peepers

----> is a socio-pathetic degenerate with a penchant for cheap booze, ruphy-laden broads, and dim sum soup.


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